For our big 200th episode, we hope you enjoy the backdoor pilot for THE BONES ZONE, our weekly podcast about the show Bones. It’s been a long road, folks, but we’re so glad you support us in our weird art.
“Emily Deschanel on Biggest 'Bones' Lessons”: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/emily-deschanel-biggest-bones-lessons-working-david-boreanaz-returning-tv-1215108
WATCH THE SHOW BONES: https://www.hulu.com/series/bones-08cc467f-2057-4331-825a-1f993c79c862
What if CBS All Access ... is good? We're pretty sure it's not but there are enough things about it now that we feel like it's worth discussing. We also chat about episodes 4, 5 and 6 of the first season of The Good Fight.
PLUS, stay tuned for an extremely important announcement about our 200th episode regarding what Zone it will occupy.
This week's show is all about one of our favorite writers and performers, Phoebe Waller-Bridge. After talking about her current and upcoming projects, we dive deep into the masterwork that is season 2 of Fleabag.
PWB's HBO pilot: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/phoebe-waller-bridge-comedy-run-lands-hbo-pilot-order-1102282
PWB and rehabilitating James Bond: https://deadline.com/2019/05/phoebe-waller-bridge-bond-1202624860/
Kathryn on Fleabag's wall-breaking second season: https://www.vulture.com/2019/05/fleabag-season-2-fourth-wall-ending.html
This week we're starting our latest TV book club, the CBS All Access / briefly CBS series The Good Fight! It's a spin-off of the long-running legal procedural The Good Wife, so we start with a little game where we try to come up with some especially unlikely or improbable spin-offs of our own. But when we turn to The Good Fight, we want to make things very clear: You do not need to have seen the original series to enjoy this show. Plus we will explain the very few Good Fight references you'll find here. We'll also explain the phrase "Chunk Palmer."
Remember those little interviews they would air after every episode of Game of Thrones? And how they were always kind of bad? And how most HBO shows also do them and they’re almost always kind of bad? We talk about those.
We also chat about the mockumentary format by way of FX’s What We Do In The Shadows, a show that is (thankfully) funny enough to outshine a threadbare format.
What We Do In The Shadows: https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/what-we-do-in-the-shadows
The Beets (from the cartoon Doug): https://doug.fandom.com/wiki/The_Beets
We decided to talk a little about the shows most viewers do actually watch, that get decidedly less attention than many of the buzziest, prestige-iest series. We talk about some specific examples, including Blue Bloods, Grey's Anatomy, and The Goldbergs, but we also try to think a little about how these shows work, what the appeal is, and what we lose out on by just sort of forgetting they're always out there.
Also, Margaret watches a show called Jonathan Creek for Kozy Mystery Korner, and we laugh quite a bit at his sweet sweet 90s boy hair.
This week we chat about a report correlating TV viewing habits (and viewers' feelings about specific shows) with their political views. Then we talk about how we, as a society, just can't quit our reruns of sitcom rerun standbys like The Office and Friends.
Get your politics into my TV: http://www.mediaimpactproject.org/uploads/5/1/2/7/5127770/pcc-report_0422_pdf.pdf
People can't stop watching these old-ass shows: https://www.adweek.com/tv-video/the-office-friends-and-greys-anatomy-were-netflixs-most-streamed-shows-last-year/
But there's something about The Office (US): https://www.adweek.com/tv-video/why-the-office-now-one-of-netflixs-biggest-hits-still-resonates-with-audiences/
It's time to check in with a bunch of new and upcoming series for the summer, a segment that includes discussion of such things as: Good Omens, The Society, Big Little Lies S2, Veronica Mars, and The Boys. It's also a very special edition of a Patreon Forcening, featuring an episode someone asked *MARGARET* to watch. The world turned upside down.
First we talk a bit about Barry and Fleabag, two shows which we thought did not need second seasons. It turns out we were wrong! But then, we jump on the bandwagon for an actually timely episode about this week's Game of Thrones battle, so that Andrew can give us a nice little technology corner about why exactly no one could see any of Game of Thrones. Turns out it's... compression! Also, your bad TV lights. Also did you ever calibrate your TV?
This week, Kathryn finally settles her longrunning feud with wildlife expert-slash-goofball idiot Bear Grylls. Then, we gather around the watercooler to discuss the latest character to die on the final season of Game Of Thrones: the concept of watercooler television!! Of course, what is dead may never die.
You vs. Wild: https://www.netflix.com/title/80227574
Is Game of Thrones the last watercooler show? https://www.vulture.com/2019/04/game-of-thrones-the-last-show-we-watch-together.html
Is watercooler TV just dead, then??? https://www.theocelot.co.uk/is-there-still-room-for-watercooler-tv-in-the-netflix-era/
Our first task this week is to help a patron in need of some recommendations for happy, slow-burning rom-com TV. At the beginning of the segment Kathryn laments how few options there are to provide this; several minutes later, many options are provided.
The main course of this episode, though, is an in depth conversation about Hulu's recent series Shrill, the Aidy Bryant-led adaptation of Lindy West's memoir. Margaret. Has. Feelings.
This week Andrew watches the first episode of Netflix’s Kantaro: The Sweet Tooth Salaryman, a deeply weird Japanese show about a dude who gets horny for traditional Japanese sweets. Then we get serious and talk about the ongoing situation between the WGA and Hollywood agents, agents who may or may not be profiting too much off of the efforts of writers.
SHOW NOTES: Kantaro: The Sweet Tooth Salaryman: https://www.netflix.com/title/80175348
The WGA’s fight with Hollywood Agencies, Explained: https://www.vulture.com/2019/03/wga-hollywood-agents-packaging-explained.html
How Hollywood Writers Feel About Leaving Their Agents: https://www.vulture.com/2019/04/wga-writers-on-leaving-their-agents-8-weigh-in.html
Margaret updates us on some new offerings in the Cozy Mystery category, including a review of the new spin-off of Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries and a brand-new Acorn series about mystery writers who, naturally, solve mysteries.
Then, we attempt to break down what is going on with the new Apple TV streaming service, including such important questions as: what does it cost? When will it be available? What will be on it? Will it be any good? (Spoiler: We have answers to almost none of those questions.)
This week we hit all the HOT news about the long-canceled TV show Bones, and then we wrap up our TV Book Club about the first season of HBO's Deadwood (a show that we will, in all probability, revisit).
There is also a second segment to this episode, in which Andrew, Margaret and Kathryn all pitch imaginary TV shows about good journalism, and as per usual Margaret has an eerie number of truly fantastic TV ideas. But the main event here is that a patron forced Andrew to watch a truly awful TV show called Do No Harm aka Dr Facehands, and it was magnificent.
It's all Deadwood again this week, as we continue our latest TV Book Club. And stay tuned til the end of the show for a Very Special Announcement.
Kathryn Loves Deadwood And Has Thought Pretty Hard About It: https://twitter.com/kvanaren/status/1097342752524767234
Malcolm In The Middle for some reason?: https://www.hulu.com/series/malcolm-in-the-middle-ca1ac46e-9883-4125-a6e8-97efce9a2bf5?dl=false
Is a picture of Natasha Lyonne holding a raw chicken the best way to sell you on watching Russian Doll? Netflix thought that's what would get Kathryn! We discuss the way Netflix personalizes its menus in order to hack your brain, and how creepy it is when brands act like people. Then we turn to a bigger discussion of Russian Doll, and how much we love it, and how it bears a resemblance to several other recent shows.
This week it's all-Deadwood all the time. The show really starts coming into its own in these episodes, murdering its best-known historical figure and building out characters and just cussing until there are no more cusses to cuss.
Watch Deadwood dangit!! https://www.hbo.com/deadwood
Andrew and Margaret return to the skeptical and often controversial Kathrynth Circuit Court for a TV versus TV debate: what duo has the most TV chemistry? Kathryn makes a decision sure to infuriate truly everyone; please know that your hate mail will be received calmly and disregarded quickly.
They then turn to a discussion of how chemistry works on TV, who has it and who does not. Many things are agreed upon, except for Kathryn's ruling.
In this week’s episode we SAY that we’re going to keep Kathryn from simply reciting every episode of Deadwood in its entirety, but we don’t do a very good job. Kathryn also makes some more recommendations for loyal listeners.
CBS’s new… Frankenstein show???? https://ew.com/tv/2019/01/31/cbs-frankenstein-pilot/
Durrells in Corfu: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/shows/the-durrells-in-corfu/
Schitt’s Creek: https://www.netflix.com/title/80036165
Acorn TV: https://acorn.tv/
Seth Bullock, Real Boy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Bullock
Sol Star, Real Boy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Star
Al Swearengen, Real Boy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Swearengen
We chat about some recommendations for friendly life-affirming reality shows, courtesy of our patron Kirk. But then we turn to an even *more* life-affirming reality show - something called Forged in Fire: Knife or Death. Everyone giggles an almost unbearable amount. (On the podcast, that is. People on Forged in Fire are very, very serious.) You would not believe how hard it is to cut through a giant hanging fish.
This week, Andrew gets to a request from one of our patrons and watches the pilot of Netflix's Travelers. Then, we chat about some listener-submitted ideas for Bandersnatch-style narrative adventures, and then Andrew is pleasantly surprised by Star Trek Discovery Season 2.
McKenzie & Co, from the golden age of CD-ROM games: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McKenzie_%26_Co
Netflix's Travelers: https://www.netflix.com/title/80105699
Choose Your Own Adventure books, mapped: https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/cyoa-choose-your-own-adventure-maps
Bootyspank was hard to make: https://www.vulture.com/2019/01/how-black-mirror-bandersnatch-was-made.html
Extra Hot Great: http://previously.tv/shows/extra-hot-great/
Anson Mount is Hot Mitt Romney: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anson_Mount
Discovery S2: https://www.cbs.com/shows/star-trek-discovery/
Before we discuss the final episodes of Killing Eve season one, we turn our steely, jaded gazes onto whatever the hell is going on with FOX’s new reality show The Masked Singer. It’s a dystopian fever dream! The judges are so terrible! We think one of them is T-Pain! But the end of Killing Eve is great, and so we talk about its greatness, Konstatin's daughter, and the fact that Eve's marriage is completely unnecessary.
Netflix has us wrapped up in its warm, all-enveloping tendrils again this week - first, a chat about the choose-your-own-adventure-style Black Mirror outing Bindersplitch, and then we clean up our act with Marie Kondo.
How Butterspread came together: https://www.wired.com/story/black-mirror-bandersnatch-interactive-episode/
Other, possibly better, Twine-based text adventures: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/power-to-the-people-the-text-adventures-of-twine/1100-6402665/
Video Games Did It Better: https://www.slashfilm.com/black-mirror-bandersnatch-criticism/
WOW LOTTA BUMPERSTINK LINKS THIS WEEK: https://www.vulture.com/2018/12/black-mirror-bandersnatch-all-endings-explained.html
What happens when a whole city KonMaris all at once: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/on-and-off-the-avenue/the-marie-kondo-effect-reaches-beacons-closet