In this lightly frankensteined episode, we discuss both a piece critical of Never Have I Ever (in a segment recorded last week), episodes 2, 3, and 4 of Never Have I Ever, and the myriad glories contained in what shall from here on out be known as The Lost Tapes (recorded just last night). And, as a bonus, we have a snippet of a song from a band to which Andrew so kindly introduced us last night.
Thanks to a change in our recording setup last week, the episode we intended to release today (our next TV Book Club installment on episodes 2, 3, and 4 of Never Have I Ever) does not exist. INSTEAD, we are bringing you a rerun of a Golden Oldie: the team recommends their favorite shows for watching with only 80% attention and then, then. Then we dedicate ourselves to dunking on a terrible procedural you probably forgot existed: Deception, where the world's top magician uses his sophisticated understanding of SLEIGHT OF HAND to solve major crimes that inexplicably demand said expertise. We hope you enjoy this trip down memory lane and will be back with our regularly scheduled episodes next week.
Sports Night: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0165961/
New Girl: https://www.fox.com/new-girl/
The quarantine Emmys were ... good?? We are as shocked as the next person, but we spend most of this episode discussing what made the socially distanced pandemic awards version of the Emmys so much more compelling than the regular version. Afterwards, we turn to a brief conversation about the role of seasonality in TV plotting, which is mostly an excuse for Margaret to mourn about the cancellation of Stumptown. Stumptown! Why were you taken from us!
We answer some questions from our vaunted Tumblr ask box, which Margaret swears she won’t get upset about but then she totally does. It leads to a discussion of how important objectivity is to reviews and whether it exists at all (hint: it isn’t and it doesn’t). Then, we talk about the first episode of Netflix’s Never Have I Ever, a teen comedy that is definitely narrated by tennis legend John McEnroe.
Ask Us Questions On Tumblr, You Cowards: https://atvpodcast.com/ask
Never Have I Ever: https://www.netflix.com/title/80179190
John McEnroe Gets Mad, This Is Just One Of The Times When This Happens, Also When Are We Getting A Movie Where Matthew Rhys Plays John McEnroe, I’m Just Saying, No That Shia LeBeouf Movie Doesn’t Count: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ransFQVzf6c&t=4s
This week we have: sad dirgeses about two recently announced cancellations, bad one picks from the fall TV lineup in which we have the deepest confidence, good one picks about which we're.... like..... IDK.... maybe!!!??!?! about, more uncertain squeaky uptalk than you can shake a stick at, and a full minute of Margaret explaining a driving game called cows that anyone other than Margaret would surely have trimmed out of the episode, but it's too late for you hos as neither responsible host was here to intervene. Links of pertinence:
And, last but never least, please enjoy John Brown's portrait from the National Portrait Gallery, one of Margaret's very favorite works of art.
Inspired by the absurd, impossible inescapability of 2020, we decide to take a trip to TV past. A fateful trip. A three hour tour, if you will. (Okay fine, this episode isn't quite that long.)
First we have a chat about our own personal histories with Nick at Nite, and then turn to the bizarre phenomenon of Gilligan's Island. At one point, the fact that the castaways are able to bake a pie renders Kathryn speechless for over a minute.
This week, we talk about the bizarre experience of watching a COVID-era awards show (in this case, the VMAs), and then we talk about the first episode of HBO’s Lovecraft Country. It’s a horror show that is surprisingly tolerable for people who don’t normally like horror! And it’s an interesting way to deal with the fact that HP Lovecraft’s work is both foundational to the sci-fi genre AND written by a deeply racist dude.
Kathryn on the uncanny valley VMAs: https://www.vulture.com/2020/08/vmas-2020-took-place-nowhere.html
Lovecraft Country on HBO: https://www.hbo.com/lovecraft-country
On this week's episode we discuss CBS All Access's most recent addition to its Star Trek universe of shows, Lower Decks, which is different from the Bravo reality TV show BELOW Deck contrary to... one of your hosts' expectations-- bet you can't guess which!! HOWEVER, according to Kathryn, the two have more similarities than you might expect! THEN we branch off into an omnibus of Fall TV we're anticipating and at least one show Andrew would like to leave at the bottom of the Marianas Trench. In said omnibus, we discuss the following:
It's a round robin of short topics this week, including Harley Quinn, why is Louis CK back, the joys of watching Perry Mason get fucked into the crevice between a bed and the wall, and whether Lovecraft Country is too scary for wimps.
Then, Andrew and Kathryn go head to head in the important debate of our time: are the title credits of Babylon Berlin actually a DVD menu screen?
Friend of the show Craig Getting joins us this week to explain what the deal is with televised sports in this time when, really, no one ought to be playing any kind of sports at all. Then, in anticipation of the Supermarket Sweep reboot, we talk about some of the episodes of the old show that went up on Netflix not that long ago.
This is just how sports audiences look now: https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/26/21339029/virtual-baseball-mlb-nba-fox-sports-coronavirus
Supermarket Sweep on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/81289176
We're surprised too, but yes, apparently television is still doing the Emmy awards this year! Not even a global pandemic can keep Jimmy Kimmel from telling us about how important television is, before then making a few lame jokes and leaving.
Anyhow, in this episode we discuss our reaction to the 2020 Emmy nominations, but first we have a long chat about the state of television production five months into shutdown. Turns out the picture is pretty bright ... for New Zealand.
In today's episode, we discuss the last three episodes of Season One of Tuca & Bertie, a show we all love the name of which Margaret can even occasionally pronounce correctly. In the process, we also discuss:
All told, a splendid episode anyone would enjoy.
This week, film and culture critic Cate Young (@battymamzelle) joins us for a discussion of The Bold Type's uneven 4th season, and why we keep watching it anyway. Then, we dial up Netflix's The Baby-Sitters Club, just to remind ourselves what it was like six months ago when we could actually get childcare.
Cate Young on Twitter: https://twitter.com/battymamzelle
The Bold Type on Hulu: https://www.hulu.com/series/the-bold-type-45c40273-0742-4324-af23-db4a484b3af3
BSC on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/81005407
More from Kathryn on BSC: https://www.vulture.com/article/the-baby-sitters-club-netflix-adaptation-review.html
We kick things off this week by talking about shows like Central Park and The Simpsons, which have announced a few significant casting changes in response to the Black Lives Matter movement. Then it's Tuca and Bertie book club time! Guess what? This show still fucking rules.
Yes folks, that's right. As the title suggests, we tackle not one but TWO all-time ATV trash classics: Andrew watches the pilot of NBC's Smash (while Kathryn and Margaret lavishly reminisce about the fun they had watching it) and then we, as a team, discuss Netflix's new extremely dumb & incredibly fun show, Floor is Lava. Highlights: whose eyes are the deadest in all of Hollywood? What screen icon does Andrew describe as "that Susan Collins looking lady"? And, best of all, who would we cast on Celebrity Floor is Lava and how would they fare? PLUS: bonus dunking on Cancel of Dads. Pertinent links:
This week, we continue our Tuca & Bertie TV Book Club with episodes 3, 4, and 5 of Season 1. In addition we discuss: the cancelled-before-its-time Sweet/Vicious at the behest of one of our $7-a-month Patreon supporters, and Andrew's incredible skill at coming up with perfect dumb podcast names.
In light of the surging Black Lives Matter movement, we discuss some of the major TV responses in the last few weeks, especially the cancelation of Cops and Live PD, and Bachelor's decision to finally cast a black male lead.
We also take a long walk through our mailbag, beginning with some really thoughtful critiques we received about the subject of cops on TV and our response to the Twilight Zone. Please note that eventually the mailbag gets less serious.
This week, we lighten things up a bit by watching the first two episode of Lisa Hanawalt's Netflix animated show, Tuca & Bertie.
Tuca & Bertie: https://www.netflix.com/title/80198137
On this week's episode, inspired by Kathryn's excellent essay on the subject, we are discussing POLICE ON TELEVISION and why, by and large, they are not doing great things for society. Along the way, we make some important stops at:
In lieu of one short topic this week, we each bring a short topic and then promise to only talk about our topic for 2 minutes each. Somehow, though, the first segment is 17 minutes long.
Then it's time for the end of the Twilight Zone book club! This time we joke a lot about pool players and the system in heaven where you have to show up as a ghost to constantly defend your titles.
hello hi yes hello guess what hi we finally did our last good one/bad one combo!!!!!! for the spring season!!!!! we put it off for so many weeks BUT THIS WEEK wasn't one of them, so here it is! OUR EPISODE! We talk about The Bachelor: Listen to Your Heart (not worse than Cancel of Dads, but LONGER) and Run (ultimately not as good a one as we hoped by god, Merritt Weaver is so beautiful, so do we even care?). Join us to learn how chamber ensemble music camp is like The Bachelor, whether Margaret's gaydar is working, and how long Margaret will attempt to communicate non-verbally before recalling she is making a podcast and must instead articulate her thoughts.
The second season of What We Do in the Shadows is one of the precious few shows left that still has new pre-pandemic episodes rolling out every week, so we talk about how great it is. Then, it’s back to the Twilight Zone, to watch some all-time series high-watermarks (S03E08, S01E08, S05E03).
What We Do in the Shadows (Hulu): https://www.hulu.com/series/what-we-do-in-the-shadows-0b10c46a-12f0-4357-8a00-547057b49bac
Vulture’s 50 best Twilight Zone episodes: https://www.vulture.com/article/twilight-zone-best-episodes.html
Did you know there will still be some TV this summer? There will! Not very much, but the summer won't be a complete content desert, and we're going to run through a few of the things we're hoping will give us some welcome summer distractions.
We also talk about the Parks and Rec reunion episode. We were not big fans, alas, but we use it as a springboard to talk about what we think works about this kind of sad event TV and whether anyone really wants a Very Special Covid Episode. (We think probably not.)
This week we return with another mind-blowing visit to The Twilight Zone, with a special (coincidental) emphasis on stories where women are driven mad by happenstance. Also we have small complaints we just gotta get off our chests ok???
Vulture’s list of The Twilight Zone episodes: https://www.vulture.com/article/twilight-zone-best-episodes.html
Hello, fellow quaranitine madness sufferers, and welcome to the latest ATV.
Is Margaret once again recording with the wrong mic this week? She sure is, and she blames Zoom. She's not sure what Zoom has to do with it, but she's still confident they're at fault.
We also talk about the new Who Wants to Be a Millionare? and the myriad ways in which it's the worst. We debate if any Late Night Jimmy other than Kimmel could have saved it. Margaret's mic? It's the still the wrong on this whole segment!
AND THEN we talk about Mrs. America! Margaret's mic remains bad but her ability to pronounce Schlafly and Abzug on her very first try is so impressive that maybe you'll stop noticing.
At the end of the episode, Andrew suggests that we might edit part of the show so that it flows more smoothly and Kathryn, bless her shining head, says "....we'll see."
You will see that we didn't, proving that once again, Kathryn is always right.