On this summer holiday week, we have a short grab bag episode of chat about what we're currently watching. Andrew mentions black-ish and Quantum Leap, Margaret's watching a very strange French satire show that Kathryn has a hard time being persuaded by, and Kathryn's been watching a documentary about the New York Times. Plus, we announce our next book club - the first season of FX's Better Things.
We're live from the Philadelphia Podcast Festival this week, talking about travel on TV and then our own super pander-y visions for Philadelphia-based TV shows.
What The Hell Is The Process: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2729018-the-definitive-history-of-trust-the-process
The Philadelphia Podcast Festival: http://www.phillypodfest.com/
This week, Kathryn gives us her report on what went down at the ATX TV festival in Austin. Then, spurred by a recent Mo Ryan tweet thread, we talk about why TV chooses to kill so many of its all-too-rare women and PoC characters in the current “anyone can die” twist-and-shocker-heavy world of TV dramas.
ATX interviews via the TV Campfire podcast: http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/23/atx-television-festival-podcast-the-tv-campfire/
Kathryn’s interview on American Vandal Season 2: http://www.vulture.com/2018/06/american-vandal-atx-festival-interview.html
An Oral History of Nana’s Party: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/06/anatomy-of-a-scene-american-vandal-netflix-nanas-party-making-of-oral-history
Mo Ryan on women and PoC characters dying on TV: https://twitter.com/moryan/status/1006203919939325952
Apparently, not *anyone* can die: https://variety.com/2016/tv/opinion/tv-deaths-walking-dead-the-100-arrow-1201751968/
Character TV deaths in 2015-16, tracked: https://www.vox.com/a/tv-deaths-lgbt-diversity
After a week's delay due to Kathryn sounding like a monster from a children’s movie, we return with full voices to discuss the final installment of our ER book club. Margaret swears she will never trust David Krumholtz again. First, though, we talk about some Netflix news and yell about the weird phenomenon of half seasons.
This week, we talk briefly about Roseanne's terrible behavior bringing down her successful rebooted sitcom, delivering an unexpected (but not unappreciated) ATV Kiss of Death to yet another program. Then, we spend some time looking forward to this summer's TV; there's a surprising amount that you should add to your schedule.
Roseanne canceled because Roseanne Barr is racist: http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/29/media/roseanne-twitter-chelsea-clinton/index.html
Set It Up on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/80184100
Marvel's Cloak & Dagger on Freeform: https://freeform.go.com/shows/marvels-cloak-and-dagger
Pose on Netflix: http://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/pose
Sharp Objects on HBO: https://www.hbo.com/sharp-objects
Queer Eye on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/80160037
Kimmy Schmidt Season 4 on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/80025384
GLOW on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/80114988
The Bold Type on Freeform: https://freeform.go.com/shows/the-bold-type
Younger on TV Land: http://www.tvland.com/shows/younger
We begin our conversation by welcoming back guest host Christina Tucker, who joins us to talk about the wild ride of Brooklyn Nine-Nine's cancellation and swift resurrection. We also talk about the tricky, complicated dynamics of storytelling designed to humanize cops. Afterward, it's the return of TV vs TV! Thanks to a patreon supporter, we spend some time considering the vitally important question of best SVU guest star. As per usual, Margaret comes slightly underprepared and Andrew brings jokes.
This week ATV welcomes back Christina Tucker to talk about the next installment in our ER book club, and it's a good thing we do because someone needed to make sure we fully appreciate Julianna Margulies. Before we get to ER, though, it sudden occurs to us that many of the shows we talk about on ATV... get cancelled?
This week we chat a bit about the recut S4 and forthcoming S5 of Arrested Development, a show we thought we'd seen the last of. Then, we talk about the different ways in which TV communicates intelligence.
The Arrested Development announcement: https://twitter.com/MitchHurwitz/status/991373460986249216
"I make a lot of graphs": https://media.giphy.com/media/l2JdSDAAwdtVa4bzW/giphy.gif
The quintessential GIF: https://media.giphy.com/media/yJu2jIQZgPubm/giphy.gif
First: in some places during this episode, Margaret sounds like she's being played on an old dusty record player. We are sorry about that!
We chat briefly about how there should be more women in late night, which is both obvious and yet still a weirdly, unconscionably lopsided thing about TV culture. Happily, Busy Philips is going to have a talk show on E! Then we turn to the next in our ER book club, which includes a discussion of "Blizzard," "Love's Labor Lost" and "Everything Old Is New Again." If discussions of bad medical outcomes during labor and delivery is going to be upsetting for you... maybe skip some of this!
This week, we finally finish up our 2018 TV overview by talking about the oft-delayed Zach Braff project Alex, Inc., which in the Margaret’s words was a show we could “barely hate.” We also talk about when America fell out of love with Zach Braff, and what non-Roseanne working-class TV looks like right now.
SHOW NOTES, such as they are: Alex Inc. http://abc.go.com/shows/alex-inc
After The Simpsons' truly terrible response to criticism of its character Apu, we talk about what The Simpsons has done wrong, and how weird it is for a show to absolutely refuse to change over time. Then we talk about the pilot episode of ER for our latest book club, and Margaret and Andrew are very patient while Kathryn goes a little bonkers over tracking shots.
This week, Kathryn gives another round of TV recommendations to a listener who’s looking for a show she only has to mostly pay attention to. Then, we spend an hour with the magical ABC crime procedural Deception, and we detail both the kinds of magic we would like to see in future cases and the far-fetched occupations we’d like to see teamed up with the FBI.
Sports Night: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0165961/
New Girl: https://www.fox.com/new-girl/
In fulfillment of another patreon request, Andrew tells Kathryn and Margaret all about a two-part episode of Quantum Leap. This involves attempting to explain the premise of Quantum Leap, much to everyone's delight and confusion. Afterwards, we talk about news clips and news anchors on TV, which includes a celebration of Perd Hapley.
This is our Roseanne revival episode. We are unequivocal in declaring Roseanne Barr to be reprehensible; unpacking her show (and the response it has prompted, at least so far) is more complicated. Come and join us on this frustrating quest!
BEHOLD, A SEA OF ROSEANNE TAKES:
The Roseanne reboot and ABC's "heartland strategy": https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/29/business/media/roseanne-ratings-trump.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur
How TV depicts Trump supporters, explained: https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/3/30/17174720/roseanne-2018-reboot-controversy-trump-explained-review
When different viewers like the same show for different reasons: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/04/07/the-great-divide-emily-nussbaum
On the divide between the old Roseanne Conner and the new one: https://decider.com/2018/04/04/new-roseanne-advocates/
ABC tries to separate Roseanne the show from Roseanne the person's toxic political views: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/roseanne-boss-asks-viewers-separate-revival-controversial-stars-persona-1099523
Thanks to a recent spate of TV renewals from Netflix and other outlets, we take a moment to celebrate the upcoming third season of One Day at a Time and talk about the campaign surrounding its renewal. Also, apparently, Nailed It! has been renewed, which we have no feelings about.
Afterwards, we chat about the new HBO hitman comedy show Barry, starring Bill Hader. We like it! A lot!
This week, Kathryn and the gang deliver another round of TV recommendations based on listener requests. We then dive into the worst thing we have watched for the show in recent memory, the soulless Netflix baking competition show Nailed It.
This week’s TV recommendations:
NBC’s Life: https://www.nbc.com/life?nbc=1
And also there's Nailed It (please do not use this link to watch the show): https://www.netflix.com/title/80179138
This week we kick things off with an overly self-aware discussion about the point of television criticism, who it's for, whether it makes sense to critique things like plausibility and character behavior, and how TV is in fact like books now. (Kathryn, somehow, does not combust). Then we talk about NBC's Good Girls, a show we want to like but also a show that doesn't seem to know what it is yet.
This week instead of doing a little thing and a big thing, we do a bunch of little things. It's an ATV Lightning Round!
We're not fans of casting the same actor in two or more roles in the same project, there, we said it: http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/10/deuce-james-franco-double/
A woman is running Amazon's TV studios: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/02/amazon-jennifer-salke-studio-head-roy-price-replacement
Cougartown is on Hulu now: http://www.eonline.com/news/906949/one-tree-hill-everwood-and-cougar-town-coming-to-hulu-in-february-2018
The show Younger is a thing! https://www.hulu.com/younger
Recently canceled queer shows that deserved better: https://www.buzzfeed.com/bayleajones/whos-afraid-of-the-big-bad-butch?utm_term=.twYpk0q59#.txpRmXw4x
Stephanie Beatriz on Rosa Diaz's coming out: http://ew.com/tv/2017/12/05/brooklyn-nine-nine-rosa-bisexual/
It's that time of year when a young TV fan's eye turns to what's happening in the world of spring television releases. We do a short round of selections, including the final season of The Americans, Heidi Thomas' Little Women, and the new NBC series Rise. Then we talk about the Netflix reboot of Queer Eye, which we are much more positive about than we thought we'd be!
This week, Andrew talks about his experience watching the old 70s Lynda Carter Wonder Woman show, which occupies a space somewhere in between the campy action of 60s Adam West Batman and the campy action of the 80s A-Team. Then, we take one last trip to theater camp to wrap up our Slings and Arrows TV Book Club.
More on Wonder Woman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Woman_(TV_series)
Wonder Woman on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Wonder-Woman-Season-1/dp/B000NWZGRW
Slings and Arrows Season 1 Episode 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR-jzPyjAcU
Slings and Arrows Season 1 Episode 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d90kdolykoI
We catch up with the show that killed a beloved TV dad with a popular kitchen appliance on the night of the Super Bowl, This Is Us. We then talk about the fantastic second season of Netflix's One Day at a Time, and dig into a little about Rita Moreno, how the show does politics, and the frustration of amazing, inclusive, human TV shows that feel destined to languish unseen by most TV watchers.
This week, special guest Craig (of Overdue fame) joins the show to help Kathryn recommend a new round of shows to our generous patrons. Then, Craig lends us his theatrical expertise as we jump into episodes 3 and 4 of Slings and Arrows.
Adventure Time: http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/adventuretime/
Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries: https://www.netflix.com/title/70259338
Orange Is The New Black: https://www.netflix.com/title/70242311
Line of Duty: https://www.hulu.com/line-of-duty
Slings and Arrows S01E03: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kseo537iflc
Slings and Arrows S01E04: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXHBBi79wg8
Overdue, where you can hear Craig every week: http://overduepodcast.com/
We return to the world of Black Mirror after a very long break, this time to do a swing through a few episodes of the new season. Each one of us watched a different episode, and we use this opportunity to play a little game - we describe most of the episode we saw, and the other two have to try to imagine what the inevitable Black Mirror twist will be. Kathryn watched "Hang the DJ," Margaret watched "Arkangel," and Andrew watched "USS Callister." Heads up: we definitely spoil all of them.
This week Andrew suffers through Better Late Than Never, a not-quite-reality show about old men being casually racist in a foreign country. Then, we chat about episodes one and two of Slings and Arrows, our latest TV Book Club.
Better Late Than Never, which is truly terrible: https://www.hulu.com/better-late-than-never
Slings and Arrows episode 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4OL2DZLL7k
Slings and Arrows episode 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8ctDIGg_9s
We spend a few moments thinking about our TV resolutions for the new year. For Andrew and Kathryn it's mostly about specific TV they'd like to check out; for Margaret it boils down to "actually watch some TV." We then take a look at the field of new TV to look forward to in the new year, and pick out some of our most anticipated series, including Sharp Objects, Good Girls, and the truly concerning 9-1-1. Finally, we announce our next TV Book Club, Slings & Arrows!